In March, 2005, former senator John DeCamp sent a public letter to predicate felon and career criminal, Tim White, titled, HARTWELL LIBEL SUIT. The letter is given in its entirety, below, in this report. This letter, libeling and demonizing Barbara Hartwell, has since been published all over the World Wide Web.
DeCamp recruited Tim White, a known criminal stalker, who has made many threats, including threats on my life, since 2002; and who has been engaging in criminal harassment of myself and many others, at least since 2001. For this, I have files full of evidence (including legal/police/court documents) and many witnesses.
Tim White has also been libeling and slandering Barbara Hartwell for five (5) years, making many wild and unsubtantiated allegations, which have absolutely no basis in fact. Among White's libelous allegations are that I am "CIA"; "CIA bitch"; "George Bush's trollop"; a "whore"; "sent by CIA" to target him...and many, many more, too numerous to mention here.
Tim White has boasted on many message boards that John DeCamp is his "personal friend"; and even that DeCamp is his "attorney".
White has also repeatedly harassed and threatened Barbara Hartwell in connection with the alleged DeCamp lawsuit, both by personal e-mail, and by posting his threats on public message boards. In one such e-mail message sent to Barbara Hartwell and copied to many others, White cited the DeCamp "lawsuit", and White threatened, WE ARE COMING FOR YOU.
This threat clearly implied, by the use of the plural pronoun "we", in connection with DeCamp's name, that White considered himself a mouthpiece for DeCamp and others. But then, DeCamp did select Tim White as the recipient for his public threat of a lawsuit against Barbara Hartwell. For this, DeCamp will take the consequences and will be held accountable for acting in collusion with this predicate felon to threaten and otherwise harass Barbara Hartwell, causing extreme damages in various forms.
The purported purpose of this letter from DeCamp to White was that DeCamp is "seeking Barbara Hartwell's address." And who does he recruit for this task? He recruits a criminal stalker, who violates restraining orders for several stalking targets, with impunity, and who had already targeted Barbara Hartwell for criminal harassment and even death threats.
Tim White was warned, in 2002, and given a directive, NEVER to contact Barbara Hartwell, ever again, for any reason, not by phone; not by e-mail, nor in any other way.
Once such a directive is issued, further attempts at unwanted contact constitutes HARASSMENT. Add the threats (including DEATH threats, and it becomes a criminal matter. Criminal harassment, from a known stalker, predicate felon and career criminal.
Add to this the fact that another criminal stalker, also a blackmailer and identity thief, Todd Brendan Fahey, who teamed up with Tim White, after he began his own harassment and libel campaign against Barbara Hartwell, has been publishing my PRIVATE, UNPUBLISHED street address all over the World Wide Web, since July 2004.
Fahey was also warned and issued a directive, in July, 2004, by both myself and local law enforcement, NEVER to attempt any form of contact with Barbara Hartwell, for any reason. This, after harassing phone calls, threats of violence to me and my family, and stalking on foot at my home.
Yet Fahey has continued his criminal harassment and cyber stalking to the present time --with impunity-- just like his criminal cohort, Tim White. I receive harassing e-mails from Fahey on a regular basis, at a Yahoo address I keep only for occasional posting on message boards, as my other e-mail addresses are private and unpublished, just like my street address.
Fahey also continues to harass my friend and professional colleague, ex-FBI agent Geral Sosbee, by posting libelous falsehoods --including pornographic filth, in connection with my name-- on Sosbee's message board. Fahey, like White, disregards all directives to cease and desist this stalking and harassment.
Tim White has also posted my PRIVATE street address all over the World Wide Web, in collusion with Fahey to violate my privacy; compromise my security and endanger my safety, by SOLICITING like-minded criminals to stalk and harass me. This also is a crime.
Ken Adachi, in collusion with White and Fahey, to spread libelous disinformation and outrageous lies about Barbara Hartwell, has also posted my PRIVATE street address on his website, Educate-Yourself, via libelous posts written by Todd Fahey [including 'Barbara Hartwell: Where Does One Begin?] which included my street address.
As for Adachi, he has been running a massive smear campaign against Barbara Hartwell since 2001. Preceding the letter from DeCamp to predicate felon Tim White is a commentary from Ken Adachi, filled with his usual malicious lies about Barbara Hartwell, and of course, defending the liars, criminals and shills I have exposed, over a period of years.
To refute the lies and libel of government stooge and Gunderson PR shill, Ken Adachi, I have placed my comments in brackets, in the main body of text.
From Ken Adachi
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hartwelldecamplibelsuit25apr05.shtml
April 25, 2005
It was bound to happen. Barbara Hartwell, the most viscous and libelous slanderer currently residing on the planet, is finally going to be sued for libel.
[BH: I have never "libeled" nor "slandered" anyone. My reports, in which I expose criminals, psychopaths, liars and useful idiots (like Adachi himself) are truthful, based on facts, and on the testimony of reliable witnesses. I also have hard evidence, in many cases, to substantiate my allegations. Adachi clearly has no knowledge or understanding about what constitutes libel or slander. He just throws these terms around, hoping the readers will be as ignorant as he is.
Adachi's absurd hyperbole is to be expected, as is his yellow journalism, based not on facts (and completely lacking in evidence) but on sensationalistic fabrications, written by criminals using pseudonyms, which he regularly posts on his website. Example: Brenda Negri using the pseudonym James L. Choron, in an outrageously libelous piece, titled Barbara Hartwell, Stew Webb and Al Martin, All Connected.]
For the past 5 or 6 years, Hartwell has relentlessly libeled and slandered Ted Gunderson and others over the Internet and to date, has not faced any serious legal consequence, but apparently, that's about to change.
Hartwell's bravado-and recklessness- had recently swollen to the point that she actually accused attorney John DeCamp, a former state senator from Nebraska and author of The Franklin Cover-Up, of being a child molester and pedophile. Her latest fantasy accusations coming to us in yet another of her now famous rants, usually set in the length of a mini-novel, as is the customary style of The Crimson Viper (or The Merchant of Venom) as I prefer to call her.
[BH: As regards Ted Gunderson, I have done nothing but tell the truth about my own experiences, and have exposed truthful information, based on my own investigations and research. As a matter of fact, the information I have exposed is entirely consistent with that exposed by various others, including McMartin Pre-school whistleblower Jackie McGauley and author of The Last Circle, Cheri Seymour aka Carrol Marshall.
As for Adachi, he came out of the woodwork to start his malicious libel campaign against Barbara Hartwell in 2001, simply because he was directed to do so by Ted Gunderson. Gunderson is COINTELPRO, same as when he was in the FBI.
Adachi does not know me, nor anything about me which is accurate, truthful or real, and simply parrots whatever Ted Gunderson tells him to --and writes his smear pieces without ever doing any research; without checking his facts; and not knowing what the hell he is talking about.]
Hartwell, progeny of a CIA family and programmed under the trauma-based MK Ultra program to be a mind controlled slave for the CIA, has always loudly declared that she was free of CIA mind control programming influence because "God" saved her and "freed" her from mind control and the CIA.
[BH: Adachi has got it wrong here, as always. I was never programmed to be a "mind controlled slave." Since I have not discussed the programming by CIA publicly, except in general terms (and that is my prerogative), Adachi has no way of knowing what type of programming I had, nor for what purpose.
Adachi, as always, is simply parroting what he has read or been told about the experiences and programming of OTHERS who claim to be "survivors" of CIA mind control; or by those claiming to be researchers and investigators of such mind control programs.
As it happens, the experiences and background of such persons has nothing to do with me --yet Adachi and his fellow charlatans continue to lump me into a category where I simply do not belong.
For those interested in the truth about my background and experiences (as much as I am willing to disclose), they may read about it in my own reports. And for Adachi's edification, just because I have gone public with my case, and as a whistleblower on CIA and other government black programs, does NOT mean my life is an open book. I am the one --and the ONLY one-- who chooses what I will write about or speak about, publicly or otherwise. The readers may make of my reports what they will.
Attacks from Adachi and his cohorts, accusing me of being a liar, or spreading outrageous and libelous falsehoods about Barbara Hartwell, will not do a thing to change that.]
When she sought out Ted Gunderson's help in the late 1990's, she didn't come across as being so "free" of CIA control. She was worried that she would be killed at the time (I can't imagine why, as Hartwell is, has been, and continues to be, an enormous asset to the propaganda/disinformation goals of the CIA) and needed Ted's help to get out of Dodge. It was only after Ted extended himself to help her obtain the protection, publicity, and money that she so desperately needed, that Hartwell decided (a tip-off from "God" perhaps?) that Ted was 'dirty' and she dedicated herself to the task of "exposing" him over the Internet. I can only assume that it was this sort of dedication to ferreting out the "truth" concerning demons-in-disguise like Ted Gunderson that caused "God" to smile on our very own, modern day Joan of Arc and perform The Miracle of Spontaneous Deprogramming.
[BH: Adachi, again, parrots Ted Gunderson's lies and the disinformation about Barbara Hartwell which Gunderson and others have fed him. Adachi speaks with arrogant "authority" about people and subjects of which he is ignorant and uninformed, including Barbara Hartwell.
As for Ted's "protection", I was told by Ted Gunderson that he had "arranged for retaliation" should anyone make a hit on me. And Ted called me several times with his own fear-mongering tactics, saying "They want you dead, Barbara." This, when I refused to comply with Ted's containment operation, to put the desired "spin" on my experiences and background, which had nothing to do with "satanism" or "sexual abuse" --which I clearly stated numerous times, both publicly and privately, including to Ted Gunderson himself.
I was never intimidated by Ted Gunderson's tactics, so although I was concerned about threats to my life from other quarters (including CIA), I mostly ignored these "warnings" as they did not seem credible. I just kept telling the truth about my own experiences, and exposing information at my own discretion, as I had been doing before I ever met or heard of Ted Gunderson, or any of his associates.
And I broke off my association with Ted Gunderson only after I had seen enough evidence that Ted was involved in illegal activities; and after Ted himself admitted to me that DeCamp had been involved in certain criminal activities. I later learned much more, and when I exposed it, I was targeted for even worse harassment and threats, including by Tim White, DeCamp's chosen conduit to publish his threats about a lawsuit.
When I first exposed the truth about Gunderson and DeCamp, I had heard some of this truth (at least about DeCamp) from Gunderson himself, who admitted it to me, after I confronted him with what I already knew. So, if DeCamp wants to "sue" someone, maybe he should sue Ted Gunderson for "slandering" him to a third party, a person who was interested only in learning the truth; and who had no wish to be involved in any such dirty dealing or coverups, by association or otherwise.
As for "money", Ted himself sent me a check for $100.00, in 1997, but that was the ONLY money I ever got as a direct result of my association with Ted Gunderson. None of Adachi's lies can change that, either.
And let this stooge, Ken Adachi, call me Joan of Arc, in his foolish attempt to discredit my very real and devout spiritual beliefs in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He apparently enjoys mocking God as well. God, no doubt, will deal with him when the time comes. Bearing false witness is a serious offense and he'll be held accountable for it.]
It seems that "God" has only seen fit to bestow this extraordinary and solitary miracle upon the saint-like character of Ms Hartwell, as other better known (and certainly more accomplished) MK Ultra victim/survivors such as Brice Taylor, author of Thanks for the Memories, have had to go through the tiresome and costly deprogramming-by-human-intervention method to be relatively free of CIA access to the subconscious mind. But hey; who am I to argue with "God's" Chosen Few?
[BH: Again, more gobbeldygook spewed out from the loud, offensive mouth of the ignoramus, Ken Adachi. He's entitled to his opinion, but I repeat: Sue Ford aka Brice Taylor is NOT the yardstick by which all cases of " government mind control" are to be measured. Having met her, spoken with her and read her books, I can say that her "case" simply does not share commonalities with mine.
Adachi uses her name, over and over, attempting to discredit Barbara Hartwell. Ford/Taylor is also a close ally of Ted Gunderson, and has been for many years. Sue Ford herself has spread many lies about me, in attempts to discredit me. And she also spreads much damaging disinfo about "mind control" on which she touts herself as as expert.
I have nothing to do with this woman, and haven't since I cut off my association with her in 2000, just as I did with Ted Gunderson.]
Tim White (yet another victim of "Babs" barbs) sent me the following e-mail which he received from John DeCamp after Tim informed John DeCamp of Hartwell's latest slanders against him. It's obvious from DeCamp's use of capital letters that he's rather incensed at the UNFOUNDED RECKLESSNESS that is so characteristic of Barbara Hartwell and her writings. Her unabashed recklessness is the byproduct of a distorted, twisted, and PERVERTED psyche, which is what you get when you're a generational victim of CIA MK Ultra mind control programming.
[BH; Adachi promotes and endorses Tim White: predicate felon; career criminal; psycho stalker; transvestite; sexual pervert; collector of child pornography; drug trafficker --and calls him a "victim" of Barbara Hartwell.
And yet, Barbara Hartwell is accused of "recklessness"; of having a "twisted" and "PERVERTED psyche"?
Adachi really, really needs to make a reality check --if such a thing is still possible. Either he himself has been brainwashed -- or he's just another malicious liar. From what I have observed of Adachi's behavior, both hold true.]
Many victims of mind control, like Hartwell, fail to see their vulnerability in this regard. If you spend any time reading the Mind Control forum on the Internet, you will see that most posters exhaust themselves in an endless cacophony of paranoia, accusations, 'double' agent claims, 'moles', counter -accusations, etc. These people can no longer trust anything or anybody because their core sense of inner security of who they are and what they know to be true, has been taken from them. These people are wide open to the confounding labyrinth of paranoia and suggestibility, and believe me, they let it rip! This is not to condemn them, because they have been programmed without their consent, but rather, I want to remind the reader that victims of mind control have had their minds messed with- and messed with badly.
Hartwell represents the Worst of the Worst in this regard. With few exceptions (like her former "buddy", Kurt Billings), Hartwell has leveled her most vicious attacks against people who have tried their best to nationally expose mind control, satanism, and child abuse by the CIA, high level politicians, law enforcement, the military, etc. The only reason that we know so much today about mind control, satanism, and the abuse of children by elite pedophiles is because dedicated, selfless individuals like former FBI station chief Ted L. Gunderson, Fritz Springmeier, John DeCamp, or Walter Bowart have been talking, lecturing, and writing about it for the past 20 years or more. It stands to reason that the CIA, who are in bed with the Illuminati to destroy America and create a mind-controlled slave society, would want to discredit and smear those who are doing the most to expose their hideous agenda. And what better way for the CIA to accomplish that goal than by using one of their own, a MK Ultra mind controlled slave by the name of Barbara Hartwell, and have her do their mischievous work for them and never have to pay her a dime for that effort?
[BH: Here, from disinfo stooge Ken Adachi, the usual tirade of invective, malicious lies, character assassination, defamation about Barbara Hartwell. He's a shill for criminal government operatives and I guarantee, he'll pay a heavy price for his evildoing.
I will not bother responding further to this fool (except for one comment, below) ; nor to Adachi's interminable line of drivel, except to state, once again, for the public record:
I do not work for CIA. I have not worked for CIA in over 13 years. I am not under any form of "mind control" by CIA, or any other person(s), entity, entities. I am not under contract by CIA, nor being "used" by CIA, nor am I in contact with anyone from CIA. Nor am I in collusion with CIA, nor any of their agents, operatives, contract operators or hired "talent". Period. Case closed.]
If you recognize the enormous damage and injustice that Barbara Hartlwell has done to Ted Gunderson and now John DeCamp, and you are in a position to know the whereabouts of Barbara Hartwell, please forward that information to myself or Tim White. We will forward the info to John DeCamp who can then get her properly served. The time has thankfully come for Barbara Hartwell to finally pay the piper. God knows, it's long overdue.
Ken Adachi
Editor, Educate Yourself
[BH: Ken Adachi now implicates himself, once again, as being in collusion with those (including Tim White, Todd Fahey, John DeCamp) who are violating the privacy; compromising the security; threatening the well being, and endangering the safety of Barbara Hartwell, by soliciting further harassment and stalking at my home address.
My street address, the location of my home, is PRIVATE, UNLISTED and UNPUBLISHED. And it will remain so, in perpetuity.
I have arranged to keep my street address private, through legal means, for my own safety. No one has a right, legally or otherwise, to violate my privacy, harass or stalk me. I will not tolerate it.
Furthermore, I do not receive postal service deliveries at my home address. I do not allow soliciting (of any kind) at my home. I do not allow trespassing on my property. When trespassers violate the law by disregarding the NO TRESPASSING signs clearly posted on my property, I warn the trespassers to leave immediately, and if they disregard my directive, I call the police.
It is NOBODY'S BUSINESS about my "whereabouts."
One of Adachi and White's cohorts, criminal stalker, Todd Fahey, has in fact, among his many outrageous lies, published one such falsehood about my "whereabouts": that "Barbara Hartwell has relocated to Brownsville, Texas and is sharing an apartment with one Geral Sosbee."
In summary, I am damn sick and tired of being harassed, stalked and threatened by the loathsome individuals who comprise this criminal conspiracy, which includes racketeering.
And I will protect and defend myself by any and all legal means possible. I will also seek the arrest and prosecution, to the fullest extent of the law, of any and all persons committing crimes against me, my family or those who may be under my protection.
These criminals are hereby warned:
CEASE AND DESIST from all stalking, harassment and threats.
Barbara Hartwell
February 7, 2007
Here, as evidence, is the letter from former Senator John DeCamp, in which he solicits the assistance of predicate felon Tim White, and shows himself to be in collusion with Tim White to threaten Barbara Hartwell; to violate privacy; compromise security and endanger safety.
This letter was published on Todd Brendan Fahey's site, Friends of Liberty (on which he boasted an "exclusive"); but as given here (along with Adachi's above commentary), is taken from Ken Adachi's site, Educate-Yourself.
I have nothing much to say about DeCamp, except that I find him utterly despicable, just like his minion, his chosen conduit and shill, Tim White.
And the only comment I have on his letter to Tim White is that mocking the Holy Spirit would seem very much in character for a person like John DeCamp. Apparently, he does not realize that God will not be mocked. But I've no doubt, he'll find that out, to his great consternation, sooner or later.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim White"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: HARTWELL LIBEL SUIT
Memo from: John DeCamp 25 April 2005 To: Tim White
Re: My Libel suit planned against HARTWELL..Need for address
I appreciate the E mails you have provided me relative to the apparent ALLEGATIONS Ms. Hartwell is making against me, John DeCamp, personally. I DENY ABSOLUTELY & UNEQUIVOCALLY THE LIBELOUS & SLANDEROUS ALLEGATIONS MADE BY THIS WOMAN AGAINST & ABOUT ME. Further, any issues or claims she would like to make have been tested in the courts & my vindication has been documented in some detail in my book, EVERY SINGLE EDITION OF THE FRANKLIN COVER UP EVER PUT OUT, & Ms. Hartwell should know this.
Ms. Hartwell claims she got her information & documentation & proof directly from the HOLY SPIRIT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
I NEED your help, Mr. White, in getting Hartwell's exact address so I can enter my suit in the proper court & properly notify her of my intentions & properly serve her with legal papers.
I do NOT personally use the internet, believe it or not...have to rely on my office help & my kids (who live on the damned internet) & hence I am sending THIS FORMAL LETTER TO YOU, MR. WHITE, SO THAT YOU CAN HELP ME LOCATE THE EXACT ADDRESS OF THIS CREATURE, HARTWELL, TO PROPERLY & TOTALLY & LEGALLY & EFFECTIVELY SUE HER FOR LIBEL.
So, Tim, would appreciate your reply ASAP & you are welcome to forward this information to creature Hartwell. First thing I will do in my libel suit against her is to TAKE HARTWELL'S Deposition & deposition of INFO PROVIDER, who is, ACCORDING TO HER, THE HOLY SPIRIT...SO, SHE BETTER BE READY TO PRODUCE HER WITNESS-THE HOLY SPIRIT--OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.
I AM DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, TIM. Feel free to provide this information to Gunderson or any one you deem appropriate. I do not know why Hartwell is making her LIBELOUS claims against me, What her goals & intentions are, OR WHO IS BEHIND HER DOING THIS & FOR WHAT REASONS, but I must sue her for it.
I DO KNOW THIS. I HAVE NEVER PUT ONE THING ON THE INTERNET MYSELF DURING ALL THIS CONTROVERSY & INFORMATION SHARING ON THE GANNON MATTER OR THE WHO, WHAT, WHY, WHERE & HOW OF WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM-SO, CLEARLY, SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SHUT ME UP IN ADVANCE, I SUSPECT.
AS FOR THE WOMAN'S CLAIMS I DEFENDED KISSINGER. BULLSHIT. KISSINGER WAS THE SINGLE MOST INVOLVED & IMPORTANT INDIVIDUAL IN THE FIRING-IMPROPERLY-OF MY BEST FRIEND, C.I.A. HEAD BILL COLBY. He fired Colby improperly &, in my opinion, because Colby was revealing before the Congress (Church Committee Hearings) secrets of government wrong doing Kissinger did not want exposed.
I DID, I am sure, follow my absolute standard policy in the radio program of NOT SUPPORTING OR DEFENDING ANY ALLEGATIONS ABOUT ANYONE THAT I DID NOT PERSONALLY HAVE THE PROOF FOR. And, with respect to Mr. Kissinger, I am sure-without in any way remembering the program Hartwell claims I was on-that when "Allegations" of sexual impropriety were made about Kissinger that I would have pointed out that:
"I do not know. I do not have proof of Mr. Kissinger's sexual impropriety that is alleged & that you are asking me about."
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I AM DEFENDING KISSINGER. IT MEANS I AM PROTECTING MYSELF AGAINST LIBEL. WHY SO careful?
My book, The Franklin Cover Up, resulted in a dozen of the most powerful attorneys in America threatening me with Libel at a press conference because in my book I name the names of the Most Powerful folk in America..BUT I ALWAYS GIVE PROOF or HAVE THE PROOF READY TO GIVE IF QUESTIONED.
I replied to libel suit threats with my statement that "Truth is a Defense & I am ready to defend any libel suits filed against me."
THERE WAS NOT & HAS NOT BEEN ONE SINGLE LIBEL SUIT FILED AGAINST ME OR MY BOOK. I DARED THEM ALL TO FILE.
I however, filed MY OWN PERSONAL LIBEL suit against the "Great Atlantic Telecast Co.," out of Wilmington, North Carolina for claiming on their news broadcast that my claims about MANY powerful & prominent individuals I NAMED, were a "Lie." I WON THAT SUIT & GOT A BIG CASH SETTLEMENT (as part of the agreement I am NOT allowed to disclose the amount) & a public apology on their National TV station two nights in a row on the evening news. Based on what I have seen from Ms. Hartwell, it is my intent absolutely to file same type libel lawsuit against her.
With respect to Hartwell's claims about "Linda Wiegand" & my supposedly "cheating her or her friend" out of money in work I did for her. AGAIN, BS. . HER FRIENDS FILED A BAR COMPLAINT against me WHICH WAS INVESTIGATED FROM HERE TO HELL FREEZES OVER.
Despite the fact that State Bar hated me with a passion & would have done anything to get me (Because of book, Franklin Cover Up which named some bar members in the book,) THE STATE BAR TOTALLY, UNCONDITIONALLY CLEARED ME ON THESE CLAIMS. Fact is, Wiegand's friend-as I documented for the State Bar Investigation-SOLD HER, WIEGAND OUT, TO TRY TO GET A REWARD OF $50,000.00 & FOR OTHER EVIL REASONS.
Respectfully,
John W. DeCamp
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And lastly, here is Ken Adachi's glowing endorsement of predicate felon Tim White, in which Adachi also demonizes one of White's targets for criminal harassment, death threats and stalking, Barbara Hartwell.
From Educate-Yourself
September 17, 2004
TIM WHITE POSTINGS
Tim sends out so many 'on target' articles to his daily list, that I decided to devote a special page exclusively to his chosen material and commentaries. I've grouped one series of Tim's postings under the heading of "The Planned Destruction of America" because that's what Tim's posting make crystal clear: we are being betrayed by our own government and that betrayal is about as in-your-face as it can possibly get, yet the public walks around as if in a sleepwalk, allowing the media ministry to keep them mesmerized with sin, sex, and TV survival sensationalism, followed up by a morbid preoccupation with sports. The Roman emperor Nero called that sort of calculated diversion "Bread & Circus". Today, it's hot dogs and baseball.
[BH: And of course, one of the articles posted on the section called Tim White Postings:]
John DeCamp Seeks Barbara Hartwell's Address to Serve Libel Suit
April 25, 2005. Posted July 31, 2005